NOw this is one happy camper his bear is in the woods just 20 yds away. Judy makes him sit for a couple of photos of his stand. During Nov last winter he froze his butt off in 20F below and this summer it is 80F above. Kind of like a little sauna but it worked just fine for Jeff. Safety is very important and it did the trick. NOt sure what he would have done if the bear might have pushed it over or something but he did have a 2-way.